We must ally with Indonesia

We need to ally with eIndonesia because we all know that they are a strong ally.Those who agree may post below, for those who disagree just do the same.

I agree.

Disagree - they're selfish,they dont respect us,they dont fulfill their promises,so what's the point of this

You haven't been in politics very long have you Mr. Alcober?

eIndonesians cannot be trusted. It is as simple as that.


Btw why did you Natural Enemy our closest ally?

Iliyan, you are from Eden country. So please, stop your crazy propaganda.
I can say one thing - this problem with our regions can be fixed in 15min. Indo dislike americans, most of ePinoys are.. Guess who?

i like them cause they help allies..

i dont like them cause they always bully us...

^ Edgar they bully entire SE Asia you just have to accept that

how could we trust them? see what they did to our regions?

yes they help their allies, those allies whom they can benefit from. what can we offer them... mindanao? heck

^ We just got Mindanao back

that is why even if we want to ally with them, they will not agree. we have nothing to offer them!!!

nah... times have changed... they can no longer be trusted...

I have already talked with indo mofa. They would accept ally with, but then, we should cancel mpp with usa. Im lithuanian, and they trust us. So everything can be fixed. Just we need hide our antipathics..

Absolutely not, and I think that declaring a natural enemy proposal on our closest ally was quite frankly, disgusting and stupid.

edgarsimeone wrote:I have already talked with indo mofa. They would accept ally with, but then, we should cancel mpp with usa. Im lithuanian, and they trust us. So everything can be fixed. Just we need hide our antipathics..

maybe eIndo should make the offer official? im not sure about being dictated by other ecountry who should we MPP with.. is it not supposed to be our ecountry's decision? :)

we are eFilipinos

I am new to this country but you see that eIndo is destroying Australia again,that means we or Malaysia will be next!
We need to ally with them and save some time.To get stronger.
When we ally with them we raise RW and take Visayas and see what next.I think we can trust them...

I dont know why do you like America so much.eIndo would be better ally,they are closer and they help allies,I know when my country was attacked they gave us tanks and fought for us :)

Well . uhm... i can't trust those eIndos...

^ i can't too.

neca95 wrote:I am new to this country but you see that eIndo is destroying Australia again,that means we or Malaysia will be next!
We need to ally with them and save some time.To get stronger.
When we ally with them we raise RW and take Visayas and see what next.I think we can trust them...

I dont know why do you like America so much.eIndo would be better ally,they are closer and they help allies,I know when my country was attacked they gave us tanks and fought for us :)

about the Australia thing, that's not a problem. Indo is always destroying them. lol. they have been wiped out then freed then wiped out then freed for a long time.

why we like America? i think there's only one reason... they help us. Indo wouldn't bother doing so.

anyway, welcome to the ePhilippines!

My opinion is still the same, stay neutral and promote good relationship with neighboring ecountries - eMalaysia, eChina, eTaiwan, eUS (Hawaii), and eIndonesia.

We can have training wars with our closest ally, eMalaysia. I think they are open with the idea and just need to have a discussion with them. Just don't propose them as NE without discussion, that's definitely will not help in promoting good relationship.

indielfi wrote:
We can have training wars with our closest ally, eMalaysia. I think they are open with the idea and just need to have a discussion with them. Just don't propose them as NE without discussion, that's definitely help in promoting good relationship.

Agreed, the eMalaysian President was absolutely furious with me yesterday...whoever came up with the bright idea of NE'ing eMalaysia has plenty of explaining to do in my opinion. I'm sorry that I am going off on a rant like this and looking unpresidential, but this seriously bothered me yesterday.

As for allying with eIndo, their government is erratic and unpredictable. While the eIndo government members have cool heads and are sometimes agreeable, I am puzzled to say that the average player is more radical and adventurous, tendencies that the government sometimes is willing or not willing to grant.

eIndonesia is one of the most sporadic, unstable countries in the entirety of eRepublic.

There were times when I was in eMalaysia that we spent the entire Presidential election day watching the number of votes for each candidate-if one of them won, we would be wiped. If the other won, we would be allies.

Malaysia has actually not had any instances of unfulfilled promises from Indonesia since allying with them... just fyi. However, before that, there were several cases of blatant backstabbing.

Myntax Urne wrote:Malaysia has actually not had any instances of unfulfilled promises from Indonesia since allying with them... just fyi. However, before that, there were several cases of blatant backstabbing.

Such a state will last only until eIndonesia feels the need to try for a babyboom.

i say no... can't we be just as. Neutral?

As someone who speaks with the Indonesian Minister of Foreign Affairs on a near-daily basis, I can say several things:

1. The government of Indo has no real reason to have a problem with us.

2. The citizenry would rather us be made into paste to spread on sandwiches.

3. We are in talks to rent Mindanao and Visayas right now, and MPPs are also being mentioned to prevent further war. I believe this is the MoFA having a heart

4. The US MPP is for training reasons only. It provides us with fights to do missions in, but we are not strongly affiliated with them any more.

nicholas2000 wrote:

Myntax Urne wrote:Malaysia has actually not had any instances of unfulfilled promises from Indonesia since allying with them... just fyi. However, before that, there were several cases of blatant backstabbing.

Such a state will last only until eIndonesia feels the need to try for a babyboom.

Quoted for truth. Relations with eIndo are like living with an abusive boyfriend/husband.